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T O P I C R E V I E WRobert PearlmanLast week, I picked up one of Toys and Models' new 1:200 Ares I models, pictured below. For its value (less than $200) and without the ability to build one for myself, I'm happy for the opportunity.Whether it will eventually take a spot next to my 1:200 space shuttle or similar scale VentureStar is still to be seen.Our buySPACE partner, TheSpaceStore.com is now taking pre-orders for the Ares I, Ares V and the set of the two. apolloprojecktNice models. Is this also made of resin or plastic? And is this now the final model that NASA is going to use? There are a lot of stories that there maybe come a whole new version? Robert PearlmanI do not know for certain what material was used to fabricate the model, though given its weight, it is not plastic. It is easier wood or resin. With regards to whether Ares I will launch crews in this configuration, or in any configuration, is still to be decided. For now though, the model represents the basic plans as they exist, and are the same as the Ares I-X test flight rocket was based upon.mslekarBoth the Ares I and Ares V are very nice for the 1/200th scale. The molds were done by Nick Proach. I have the 2 rocket set they are very nicely detailed.apolloprojecktI'm starting now with building of an Ares V scale 1/72... magnus523Unfortunately, the chances of either of these rockets ever flying are slim and fading fast, given the Augustine Commission's conclusions.Robert PearlmanThe rumors of Ares' death have been (somewhat) premature. Last week's Congressional hearings with Norm Augustine gave a decidedly different tone to his commission's summary report. The members of the House and Senate were not as quick to give up Constellation and Augustine said that his committee felt that if properly funded, Ares I and Ares V could still succeed at putting astronauts on the Moon.magnus523True enough, but the money doesn't seem to be there. A lot of people, and not just the DIRECT crowd, are hoping we get something better anyway. NASASpaceflight and Rand Simberg have been all over this issue for months now.Robert PearlmanThe Congressional hearings turned the tide somewhat because of the almost unanimous support voiced by those present to increase NASA's budget. I've read what Rand and NSF have written, but its largely speculation on theirs and everyone else's part at this point as to what will be decided. To declare Ares dead at this point therefore is to do so without any solid basis.On the flip-side, if Ares is canceled, then I wonder if Toys and Models might do the same, and cancel their models. The fact that they still produce VentureStar and X-38 models would suggest not, but one never knows what the future might hold...NightHawk117 quote:Originally posted by mslekar:Both the Ares I and Ares V are very nice for the 1/200th scale. The molds were done by Nick Proach. I have the 2 rocket set they are very nicely detailed.Looks great!apolloprojecktThe version what I saw on YouTube about time lapse camera building up the Ares I-X, is this now the future model what NASA going to use (total white paint) or as the shuttle two flights, white versions and than back to a brown version to save weight by using less white paint? Anybody now? Robert PearlmanAres I-X is a test flight of the vehicle configuration only; it is not a real Ares vehicle. It's second stage is white because it is a mock-up and therefore does not have cryogenic fuel tanks inside, so in turn it does not need the same insulation used on the outside of the space shuttle's external tank (which is what you see represented as painted brown on the above model). So Ares I-X's appearance is unique to itself and is not indicative of what Ares I will look like (Ares I-X's first stage roll markings are different, too).apolloprojecktThanks for the information Robert.Here are two photos of building the real space kit 1/144 version, that will be the Ares 1 and a 80% self-made 1/72 Ares 1-X version, 70% is of Aluminum, if they ready you get the end result on photo...
Whether it will eventually take a spot next to my 1:200 space shuttle or similar scale VentureStar is still to be seen.
Our buySPACE partner, TheSpaceStore.com is now taking pre-orders for the Ares I, Ares V and the set of the two.
With regards to whether Ares I will launch crews in this configuration, or in any configuration, is still to be decided. For now though, the model represents the basic plans as they exist, and are the same as the Ares I-X test flight rocket was based upon.
To declare Ares dead at this point therefore is to do so without any solid basis.
On the flip-side, if Ares is canceled, then I wonder if Toys and Models might do the same, and cancel their models. The fact that they still produce VentureStar and X-38 models would suggest not, but one never knows what the future might hold...
quote:Originally posted by mslekar:Both the Ares I and Ares V are very nice for the 1/200th scale. The molds were done by Nick Proach. I have the 2 rocket set they are very nicely detailed.
Looks great!
So Ares I-X's appearance is unique to itself and is not indicative of what Ares I will look like (Ares I-X's first stage roll markings are different, too).
Here are two photos of building the real space kit 1/144 version, that will be the Ares 1 and a 80% self-made 1/72 Ares 1-X version, 70% is of Aluminum, if they ready you get the end result on photo...
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